A Radical Proposal for True Democracy

February 23, 2021

Guests: Hélène Landemore

Hélène Landemore is a professor of political science at Yale University and the author of 'Open Democracy: Reinventing Popular Rule for the Twenty-First Century,' specializing in democratic theory and deliberative citizens' assemblies.

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Yale political scientist Hélène Landemore argues that elections are a surprisingly weak form of democracy, and that real self-government might come from randomly selected citizens' assemblies instead. She describes experiments like Iceland's 2010 constitutional process, where 25 ordinary Icelanders drafted a new constitution through crowdsourced public input, and France's Citizens' Convention for Climate, where 150 randomly chosen citizens deliberated and proposed policies. Klein probes her ideas against American traditions like California's ballot propositions, which she views as democracy without deliberation. The episode explores whether citizens chosen by lot deliberate better than elected representatives, how such assemblies could sit alongside legislatures, and why ancient Athens used lotteries, making the case for what Landemore calls open democracy.

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