The Israeli Right’s Plan to Carve Up Gaza

October 27, 2025

Guests: Amit Segal

Amit Segal is the chief political analyst for Channel 12 in Israel and a political columnist, described in the transcript as a prominent Israeli right-wing commentator with deep access to Netanyahu's thinking.

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Amit Segal, the Israeli right-wing commentator, discusses the fragile Israel-Hamas ceasefire and Gaza's future. He proposes a 'two-state solution inside the Gaza Strip': Israel keeps its 53% behind the 'yellow line,' building a Gulf-funded new Rafah as an East/West Berlin-style contrast with the Hamas-run remainder. His central claim is that education reform — a 20-year project of deradicalization modeled on the UAE and Saudi Arabia — matters more than territory. They debate Trump's 'biggest peace in 3,000 years' (Segal: Israelis are skeptical; they got the hostages back and see little reason to celebrate), Netanyahu's transformation into a 'Facebook Netanyahu,' the Abraham Accords and Saudi normalization prospects, and Israel's collapsing brand with young Americans (a NYT/Siena poll found more Americans sympathetic to Palestinians for the first time). Segal argues Israeli politics is driven by identity and religion, not security, and predicts an anti-Netanyahu coalition could win the October 2026 election.

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