Tired? Distracted? Burned-Out? Listen to This.

January 5, 2024

Guests: Gloria Mark

Gloria Mark is a scholar of attention and author of 'Attention Span,' whose research uses computer-logging software to measure how attention spans on screens have shrunk; the transcript describes her studies of email interruptions, cognitive resources, and burnout at work.

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The episode asks why modern life leaves so many exhausted and distracted, and what the science of attention says about fixing it. Gloria Mark, an attention researcher, reframes the problem: attention is not a productivity issue but a well-being one. She argues technology expanded work's scope — email, Slack, constant access — depleting cognition, while her screen-logging studies show attention shrinking. Key findings: interruptions cascade (the interrupted become interrupters), leaving 'attention residue' like an un-erased whiteboard; even when external interruptions stop, people self-interrupt by habit, reinforced by random email checks. Not all interruptions are equal — switching context within a task is cheap, but loading entirely new mental schemas is costly. She distinguishes burnout, a serious condition of depletion, from ordinary fatigue. Remedies include real breaks (the Japanese 'beauty of empty space'), working with one's attentional rhythms, and quiet hours at work. She warns screens impair children's developing executive function.

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