'The Strongest Democratic Party That Any of Us Have Ever Seen.'
About this episode
Klein invites Democratic strategist Simon Rosenberg to make the optimistic case for the party ahead of 2024. Rosenberg argues that since MAGA emerged in 2017, Democrats have simply kept winning — 2018, 2020, the defied red wave of 2022, and a blue wave in 2023. He describes 2022 as two elections: a bluer one inside battlegrounds, where big Democratic campaigns and MAGA opponents produced striking results like 59 percent in Colorado, and a redder one outside them, where lower turnout cost Democrats the House. Counter-mobilization against MAGA, he says, has built the strongest Democratic machine ever, in money and volunteers. He urges closing the 'loudness gap,' fighting daily in the information space, framing the election around democracy and freedom, selling Biden's strong economic record, and running toward the age issue. Trump, he insists, is a far weaker candidate than in 2016 or 2020.