What a Second Biden Term Would Look Like

March 12, 2024

Guests: Aaron Retica

Aaron Retica is Ezra Klein's editor at New York Times Opinion; he joins the episode as a co-interlocutor, bringing expertise in political history and campaign strategy to frame questions about Biden's State of the Union and second-term prospects.

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Klein and his editor Aaron Retica assess Joe Biden's State of the Union address and what a second Biden term would plausibly involve. They argue the speech was meant to rebut doubts about Biden's vigor and to frame the election as a defense of democracy and economic recovery. A second term, they say, would largely be about implementation rather than new legislation: deploying the Inflation Reduction Act, infrastructure and CHIPS funds, building clean energy and semiconductor capacity, and confronting permitting and state-capacity bottlenecks. They discuss abortion rights after Dobbs, Biden's industrial and 'comeback America' messaging, Ukraine, Gaza, and immigration, and why Klein thinks good implementation could be transformational but is far from automatic. The central debate is whether Biden can combine a democratic-freedom argument with a credible cost-of-living case against Trump.

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