Maggie Haberman on How Trump Has Changed

October 25, 2024

Guests: Maggie Haberman

Maggie Haberman is a senior political reporter for The New York Times and the author of Confidence Man: The Making of Donald Trump and the Breaking of America, who has covered Trump for years.

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Maggie Haberman argues Donald Trump is older, less sharp, more meandering, and less filtered than in his first term — possibly affected by the Butler assassination attempt and Biden's withdrawal — yet fundamentally unchanged. She traces his instincts to a New York upbringing steeped in machine politics, patronage, racial wedge issues, and dominance. A second administration, she warns, would face fewer institutional restraints and be staffed with more loyal personnel, with durable priorities in immigration enforcement, tariffs, expanded presidential authority, and retribution against perceived enemies. Klein and Haberman discuss why threats against the media and Justice Department politicization should be taken literally, why the attorney general and Pentagon leadership matter most, and Haberman's view that even in defeat Trump might declare another candidacy to keep control of the Republican field.

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