What Living ‘At the Edge of Medical Knowledge’ Reveals about American Healthcare

October 26, 2021

Guests: Meghan O’Rourke

Meghan O'Rourke is an award-winning journalist and poet, the editor of The Yale Review, and the author of 'The Invisible Kingdom: Reimagining Chronic Illness,' informed by her own decade-plus struggle with unexplained autoimmune symptoms. Guest host Ross Douthat is a New York Times columnist who wrote 'The Deep Places,' a memoir about his own experience with chronic Lyme disease.

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Guest-hosted by columnist Ross Douthat while Ezra Klein was on paternity leave, this episode pairs two writers who have lived with mysterious chronic illness. Meghan O'Rourke, author of 'The Invisible Kingdom,' first discusses long Covid: why many previously healthy young people develop persistent, disabling symptoms after mild infections, what Mount Sinai's post-Covid clinic found about autonomic and breathing dysfunction, and the competing theories — lingering immune activation, virus-triggered autoimmunity, and more. O'Rourke then recounts her own odyssey, which began with strange neurological symptoms at 21, led through years of doctors dismissing her as anxious or attention-seeking, an eventual autoimmune thyroiditis diagnosis, and a fraught encounter with the 'Lyme wars' over contested chronic Lyme treatment. They discuss testimonial injustice in medicine, especially toward women, the limits of germ theory, the siloing of specialists, and how patients can advocate for themselves when medicine reaches the edge of its knowledge.

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