Now All Biden Has to Do Is Build It

September 16, 2022

Guests: Felicia Wong

Felicia Wong is president and CEO of the Roosevelt Institute, a progressive economics think tank; she has written and advised on industrial policy and a vision for a 'high care, low carbon' economy.

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Klein talks with Roosevelt Institute president Felicia Wong about the hard road from Biden's legislative victories to lived reality. They assess the three big bills — the CHIPS and Science Act, the bipartisan infrastructure law, and the Inflation Reduction Act — as a turn toward industrial policy and what Wong calls the 'sunny side of post-neoliberalism.' Wong explains the CHIPS Act's bets on basic research and $52 billion for domestic semiconductor manufacturing, and discusses the corporate-welfare critique and the promise of regional tech hubs. The conversation centers on implementation: coordinating multiple agencies, staffing shortages, multi-year planning horizons, and the clash between speed and layered policy goals like prevailing-wage and Buy American provisions. They also cover NIMBYism, the need to involve local communities, weak civic institutions, and participatory budgeting experiments, closing with three book recommendations.

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